Reading what Spot blogged about Eucalyptus, them poaching Greg de K. off us, and how this indicates change, and cannot help thinking he's way too optimistic. They are unlikely to go fully open, and the proprietary disease only dies when eradicated from the whole company. Remember Cygnus? It was supposed to be the torchlight of commerical GNU. When we bought them, old hands shared stories how their proprietary offerings failed again and again, while the support for gcc kept the lights on. Nonetheless, their executives did not have the will to go full open. I'm saying it with all due respect to Michael Tiemann, of course! But I doubt the Eucalyptus' management is much more sincere or unified when hiring Greg than Sun's was when they hired Ian Murdock. Or was that Simon Phipps?